Current number:
975635
Any other previous number(s):
PC4
Notes:
Scrapped - Derby RTC on site by Ward Ferrous Metals 10/85

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  • 975635 & 975636

    1 July 2002 - Ben

    Always good to see pictures of departmentals that were scrapped long ago - this one being taken before my railway interest even started!

  • 975635 & 975636

    23 November 2004 - Ben Williams

    This test train originally consisted of two mock Power cars (PC3 - RDB975634 and PC4 - RDB975635) with nothing (0) in between hence the nickname 'POP', it was used from September 1971 as a test bed proving the suspension, tilting and braking systems.

    Later the P-O-P train was modified with an APT-P vehicle (Laboratory 8 - 'PILOT' RDB975636) being built and formed between the original P-O-P vehicles, which were re-mounted on revised bogies and given body cladding.

    The three vehicle set then performed bogie and ride research work, mainly on the West Coast Main Line.

    Thanks to info from http://www.apt-p.com

  • 975635

    24 February 2009 - Ben Williams

    A rare shot of the end of this vehicle!

  • 975635

    24 February 2009 - Martin Allen

    Ben, It was undergoing a bogie inspection/repair on the day I saw it, note that the end of sister coach 975636 is jacked up on a trestle to support the body. The vehicles in front of 975635 had to be pulled clear to make space. Very convenient for a photograph!

    Anyone got a photo of the "naked" version of 975635 with the spaceframe bodywork?

  • 975635

    25 February 2009 - Napster

    The following website is an excellent source of APT development photos etc. http://www.old-dalby.com/apt-e.htm The author has other pages and websites dedicated to activities at Derby RTC

  • 975635

    13 October 2010 - Kit Spackman

    There are quite a few photos of the 'naked' PC3 and 4 at the main APT-E web site at http://www.apt-e.org/

    In those days neither vehicle had a 97 series no., they were just PC3 and PC4, just as the APT-E vehicles were PC1, TC1, TC2 and PC2

    Kit Spackman

    ex APT-E Tilt System Development Engineer

  • PC3, PC4, Lab 3, Lab 10

    20 June 2016 - Ben Williams

    Interesting photo here - probably quite a rare sight too...

  • PC3, PC4, Lab 3, Lab 10

    31 March 2017 - Kit Spackman

    Lab 3, just one end of which can been seen on the near end of POP-Train, was painted in the RTC Red/Blue scheme at this time, which was in 1971-2. It remained in this scheme until being repainted in the 'Inter City' scheme, as seen in the second photo, sometime in the early 80s.